Is it time to start real profiling?

To ensure we Americans never offend anyone -- particularly


fanatics intent on killing us -- law enforcement and security


screeners are not allowed to "profile" people in public places or


security checkpoints. However, they will continue to perform


random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots


with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members


of the President's security detail, 85-year-old congressmen with


metal hips and even Medal of Honor recipients. But targeting


Middle Eastern male Islamists between the ages 17 and 40


constitutes "ethnic profiling."








Let's pause a moment and review....








In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: (a) A salesman from


Utah (b) An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring


Break (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17


and 40.





In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics


by: (a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A


mom and her 6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Middle


Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by: (a) A


bluegrass band (b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of


80-year-old women (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the


ages of 17 and 40.





During the 1980's numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon


by: (a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura


(c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between


the ages of 17 and 40.





In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: (a)


A pizza delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up


for a slow news day (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the


ages of 17 and 40.





In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a


70-year-old disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown


overboard by: (a) A girls' choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A


secretary (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of


17 and 40.





In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy


diver was murdered by: (a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave


(b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d)


Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound


freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A


waitress (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17


and 40.





In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by: (a) A starving


actress (b) A mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d)


Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over


the Pacific was attempted by (a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An


decorated Vietnam Veteran (c) Twin sisters on their way to


Paducah (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17


and 40.





In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:


(a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski


trip (c) A widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Middle


Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in


Yemen by: (a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on


their way to visit Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to


Miami (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17


and 40.





On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked -- two flown into the


World Trade Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the


ground in rural Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by: (a) A


retired police officer on a mission trip to Haiti (b) A


firefighter going to Maryland for training (c) An paramedic on


his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males


between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from: (a) USAID


relief workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d)


Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped


and beheaded by: (a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c)


Cuban refugees (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages


of 17 and 40.





In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in


Moscow were murdered in sieges by: (a) Russian exchange students


(b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Middle Eastern Islamist


males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from "The Butcher of


Baghdad," but most American military personnel were killed by:


(a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women


without burkas (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages


of 17 and 40.





In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains


by bombs in Madrid, detonated by: (a) Morning commuters (b) A


three-year-old Chinese girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Middle


Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains


in London, detonated by: (a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to


hail taxis (c) Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Middle Eastern


Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and


children, killed by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These


innocent civilians were murdered by: (a) Construction workers (b)


Farmers (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist


males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced


an extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led


by: (a) "Youth" (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Middle


Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500


Americans have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men,


women and children have also been murdered by terrorists. Most of


the combat and civilians casualties were the result of bombs


detonated in civilian population centers by: (a) Fruit vendors in


Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c) Iraqi


schoolteachers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages


of 17 and 40.





In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by


rockets launched by: (a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the


'Jackson Five' (c) the cast of 'Friends' (d) Middle Eastern


Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





In 2006, a plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was


attempted by (a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese


tourists (c) groupies of the band 'Cream' (d) Middle Eastern


Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells


still in U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been


uncovered and cell members arrested. In every case, the


terrorists cell members were: (a) Southern Baptists


Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian Elders


(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.





President George Bush said this week, "America is at war with


Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us


who love freedom, to hurt our nation." The Council on


American-Islamic Relations issued an immediate objection to the


President's reference to "Islamic fascists". Nihad Awad,


executive director of CAIR protested, "We have to isolate these


individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic


faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to


be criminal. Muslims world wide know that for sure." In light of


this objection, we are left to ponder why every Islamic leader in


the U.S., and the world, does not publicly condemn every terror


action being undertaken in the name of the god of Islam. Their


silence is deafening...





Between 1970 and present, there were more than 60 other notable


examples of terrorism perpetrated by Middle Eastern male


Islamists between the ages 17 and 40, but we think you get the


point. Singling out "Middle Eastern male Islamists between the


ages 17 and 40" is not "ethnic profiling," it's "terrorist


profiling" -- acting on prolific evidence.





Anyone for Terrorist Profiling?

Is it time to start real profiling?
Yes Very very good. Exactly we are at "WAR" with Islamo Fascists, They are and look like "ARABS". When will this insanity end. Profiling has it's place. This is where it belongs. If it looks like a terrorist, and smells like a terrorist, well by God, the chances are he might be a terrorist.


Not one of the Bombings have been carried out by a little ol lady from Cincinnati.
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Reply:Racism is wrong, any which way you look at it.





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Reply:Wow. That's a long question. I think racial profiling is a dangerous place and that's probably why it's being handled carefully. Sure publicly they act like they consider anyone a suspect but you know that's just a show. But what about WWII...the innocent Asians that were jailed because of race. I think that taught our government a lesson. That's why the public facade.
Reply:I'm sure there are other terrorist attacks that you might be conveniently skipping there.
Reply:Your reasons are why the Patriot Act should have been embraced by every true American.
Reply:Hm. A toughie.





I know I am not entirely right but it is part of the Islam teaching that they look out for each other.





Now if an extremist throw in silly ideas like "Kill these people because they are the ones responsible for your brothers' hurting" then the devout Muslims who are unfortunately get themselves brainwashed will go out and to perform suicide bombings and the like.





Let's see. If everyone is to convert to Muslim. Do you think it will end the human race because they bomb each other?





I don't think so.





I believe there are a big group of Muslim people who condemn these terror attacks. I always here them say "It is not part of the Muslim teaching"





So saying "Middle Eastern male Islamists between the ages 17 and 40" is wrong. First off.. not all are from the Middle Eastern. And not all are male.





But I agree that it is close. The Muslims, if they do understand and see past "religion/ethnic prejudice", can't blame the society, hell, make it the whole world, to associate "Middle Eastern male Islamists between the ages 17 and 40" with terrorists. Just watch the news!!!
Reply:The reason why racial profiling is a questionable tactic is because it conflicts with the consitution. Under the 4th Amendment, we are guaranteed the right not to be subject to search and seizure without probable cause. Race is difficult to be classified as probable cause because someone's race is not indicative of his/her likeliness to commit a crime. It's a fact that statistically, only a minority of any given race commits and is convicted of crimes.





Furthermore, how will you racially profile for terrorists? Terrorists are not confined to a country or a race. Last time I checked, wasn't there some white dude from Philly that was captured for being a terrorist back in 02? Weren't the individuals who were arrested in Florida all black? Terrorists aren't stupid; they recruit outside of their race too.
Reply:Interesting review.





I go through security at airports almost every week and find the level of security almost laughable. If we have to actually rely on TSA to keep us safe on our flights, we are in big trouble. You will notice that the most recent plot in the UK was foiled due to solid intellegence gathering. The plot was stopped before it went into the implementation phase.





We have to stop these plots before the bad guys get anywhere near the airport.





I think that if we are really going to be serious about airport security then we need to have a system where every passenger is interviewed. The Israelis ask every passenger questions and then send the fishy ones for additional screening. It would take a long time to catch a plane, but it would be a safer flight.
Reply:I agree the limits placed on our "peace officers" is ridiculous. Profiling is a normal procedure to locate, in this case terrorists.





The FBI and all law enforcement agencies use profiling.





Even the employers use profiling to a certain extent when interviewing for positions.





So enough about the political correctness. Let our people do their job.